Consent: The Path In and Out + Unpushing the Panic Button

Consent: The Path In and Out

Written by: Turtle and Sequentialized

Contributors: CSPC ND/DG, Chris, Clint, Kathryn, Jae, Jon, Saint, Scarlett, Seranine, and Teeebone

We decided to have a blunt conversation about our needs around consent and neurodiversity. We want to know when we have consent and we want our partners to know when they have our consent with no ambiguity!

Consent wraps itself in so many deep-seated patterns surrounded by generational- and geographical-specific minutiae that it can appear incomprehensible to the average human before you even add neurodiversity to the mix. Indeed, no one hands you a cheat sheet of codes at puberty to help you jump through the initial hoops of the social menagerie. Instead, we all believe we are alone in our shame, feeling lost in confusion, mixed signals, and bullies taking advantage until we memorize the unspoken secret language of flirtation and implied consent.

This is what neurotypicals (NTs) experience and seem to accept as standard operating procedures. Neurodivergent (ND) people find this “shared language” world exceedingly confusing and prefer a literal language, like dictionary definitions. (What I actually said is what I literally meant.) For example: “I want your banana,” means I want your banana, as in fruit, not, “I want to suck your dick,” which could be considered banana-shaped when hard.

Often, neurodivergents will go along with whatever is going on because a past trauma experience leaves them feeling unsafe to say no, or they can’t read body language and suddenly find themselves in too deep to get out without experiencing severe rejection. They experience one of the four F’s of trauma response: Freeze, Fight, Flight, and Fawn. NTs assume consent because the ND did not specifically say “No” or “Stop.” Later, with the lag of trauma response, the neurodivergent could feel increasingly violated but blame themselves for not saying “No.” But they also never said “Yes.” It is important to us that our partners get an express and enthusiastic “YES!” from us!

NOTE 1: Many NDs grow up being told they are not enough or being rejected for not being neurotypical, which leads to Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria (RSD). RSD occurs when you experience an intense or overwhelming emotional sensitivity to criticism or rejection. It can be a learned emotional response or you may be genetically predisposed to it.

NOTE 2: Alternately, other NDs struggle with internalized ableism. Lauren Presutti, writing for the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation, puts it this way: “Internalized ableism is when we project negative feelings onto ourselves. This happens when we start to believe how society labels disability as inferior. We start to believe the stereotypes. Internalized ableism occurs when we are so heavily influenced by the stereotypes, misconceptions, and discrimination against people with disabilities that we start to believe that our disabilities really do make us inferior” (Presutti, 2021). We observe this to mean that we do not deserve to ask for our needs to be met in any way, shape, or form. 

We feel that there are at least three types of thinkers: NTs, NDs, and neurotranslators. Translators seem to be in a small percentage; however, they can easily discourse within the communication matrix of either group. They are a lovely addition to any mixed population and really smooth out the ability to share ideas.

The Struggle

We NDs feel like we tell our counterparts what we need, and who we are…and they tear it apart looking for a secret code. They just then do whatever they want without also communicating the same information in return. We recognize that perhaps they are just not used to participating like this or perhaps have negative emotions surrounding such sharing. We are not trying to project any emotions necessarily. We just want information for better understanding. We wonder if the other person is cognitively inflexible. 

Understand that we process things in a multitude of different ways, some that we may share, while others we may not as we tend to be very internally wired humans. But all you have to do is ask, and when we are ready and feel safe, most likely we will share. Please try your best to be supportive and not be derogatory or humiliate us.

Ultimately, for enthusiastic consent from a neurodivergent:

  • Know when someone is capable of giving consent.*

  • Tell us very specifically what you want using actual names for body parts.

  • Point to where we can touch and what we can take off.

  • Tell us what the end of the scene looks like.

  • Show us how to please you.

  • Be open to let us show you exactly what pleases us. Be open to hearing exactly what we want to touch, lick, kiss, fuck, hit, punch, etc.

  • Be on time.

  • Follow up afterward.

  • Honor our boundaries.

  • Ask, “Is this ok?” whenever you need to or when we get that fearful look in our eyes.

We spoke about “Nonviolent Communication” by Marshall Rosenberg as a reference for better communication skills. 

*Another fantastic reference! https://www.consent.academy

A Kiss Is Not A Contract - Flight Of The Conchords (Lyrics)

Quotes from the ND/DG

“We have so much processing from having our boundaries ignored as children and having masked ourselves all day at work that we can get accidentally pressured into agreeing to things we wouldn’t agree to when not exhausted.”

“If asleep or passed out or someone’s body is responding to your violation—that doesn’t give consent.”

“The moment when the puzzle pieces click much later is intense and isolating. The context is lost to most and is quite vivid in my mind.”

“I’ve always been afraid to say no.”

“I'm glad there are communities such as this for support. Each of your journeys is so very valid.”

Unpushing the Panic Button

Companion Piece to “Consent: The Path In and Out”

By Turtle (written November 23, 2022)

I’m sitting in the corner of the stacks

Heavy mahogany shelving reaching into the clouds of my mind

Ladders cling, fragilely skimming my imagination as it cavorts among authors and genres.

My eyes stray over the edge of my latest conquest…dragons and mummies and mimes oh my

To my dreams in reality—flesh and blood, cloth and leather.

Sandy, semi-pulled-back hair, some trailing

Their jawline as they nibble errantly on a pencil.

Unknowing I’m watching…again.

Unknowing of my very existence.

I doubt I deserve someone so awesome.

If they turn out to be fantastic…

“How can they be anything but amazing?” I ask myself

As I paint graceful fairy wings on their back.

Do wolves fly? They look like a cute fluffy wolf.

Perhaps a wolf with wings is weird.

I watch their throat move serpentine as they swallow from their water bottle.

What would it feel like if they swallowed me?

They stand. Oh no.

Turn my way.

I scooch down. Folding myself on the hardwood chair.

They walk down the row I’m seated at the end of.

I can’t breathe. 

I freeze.

TERROR POURS INTO ME.

What if they saw me?

What if they are going to tell me to stop staring and violating their space?

I’m going to throw up!

I feel dizzy!

Maybe I will pass out!

PAUSE. BREATHE.

They are facing away from me

Searching the shelf for a specific book.

It’s worse than rejection.

They don’t even see me. 

I’m invisible.

Thoughts spiral wildly in an endless, infinite moment.

They pull an enormous dusty tome.

“Oof!” I hear as I drop my head to hide behind my hair.

A large intake of breath and they exhale to blow the dust off the book.

BOOF!

Wheeze! Cough!

I’m hacking like a cat with a hairball!

“OMG are you ok?”

“Inhaler…” I gasp while blindly fumbling with the front pouch of my green backpack.

They gently remove the bag from my grasping fingers and pull out my inhaler

Assembling it with its spacer properly in a blink.

“Here.”

Hiss. Suuuuuuuccccccckkkkkk. (HOLD) Huuuuuuuuhhhhhh.

Hiss. Suuuuuuuccccccckkkkkk. (HOLD) Huuuuuuuuhhhhhh.

A tear runs down my cheek as the horrible feeling of being unable to breathe eases.

Their warm palm cups my face.

My eyes widen as I flick them up.

I’m making eye contact.

Direct eye contact.

They are green looking into my blue and they don’t look away.

I forget to breathe.

What is air anyway?

Their thumb lightly brushes away my tear

The trail of wetness slowly dries as my face begins to warm.

Still, they look into my eyes.

How long has it been?

When will they move?

When will the catastrophic rejection occur?

Can we just get it over with?

I want to scream and run and maybe change schools— 

“I See you,” they say.

Not little “s” see but big capital “S” See.

“Take a breath.”

So I do.

“Shall we go for a walk?”

I nod.

They help me gather my belongings like we’ve done it many times before.

They hold out their hand to me.

I look at it.

“It’s ok. I don’t bite unless you ask me to!” they say with a wicked little grin.

I watch my hand reach out of its own accord and grasp theirs.

I feel like for the first time I’ve given my consent instead of having it taken.

Relief washes over me.

I feel safe.

I follow them out of the deep twilight shadows of the library where I hide

Into the sunlight sliding through the cherry blossoms.

Today my dreams are real.

The fear blows away. 

Newbie Consent Guide from FetLife

KaiBrave, a member of our CSPC community, has created a useful guide for navigating consent during pickup play and posted it on FetLife. As a personal FetLife writing, this is not official CSPC communication; however, we thought it was important to share, especially in light of the new year with lots of folks trying out new things for themselves!

The guide can be found here:

https://fetlife.com/users/12394746/posts/9079822

You can join the conversation in the comments (and as a reminder, you will need a FetLife account in order to read it). There are extra resources at the bottom of the guide if you want even more information. 

Enjoy and learn!

Awesome Boundaries Workshop with Sex Positive World

Sex Positive World is hosting an online workshop about creating and maintaining healthy boundaries and relationships. We’ve all come across times when we’ve wanted to say “no” but ignored our instinct. Or perhaps the opposite, wanting to say “yes” but being too afraid. Take a few hours to learn more about negotiation, consent, and healthy boundaries. 

Some of the topics that will be discussed during the workshop include:

Talk about what a boundary is and where we usually set them versus where we would like to set them

  • Learn how to say "no" clearly and how to respond to hearing one

  • Learn how to explore safely using negotiation, changing our “yes” to a “no” when needed, while giving and getting feedback

  • Explore cultural differences in what looks and feels like a healthy boundary 

  • Learn how to deal with someone who doesn't respect our boundaries

  • Learn more about fight, flight, freeze and fawn responses in yourself and others

  • Have opportunities to practice and discuss boundary setting with other participants

Date: Sunday, February 19

Start time: 10 a.m. PST

Duration: 3 hours

Inclusive prices range from $0–$25

RSVP here!

First Play Party: Tips and Tricks

by Flowers

So you’ve decided you want to go to your first kink party! You’re going to have an amazing time. The kink community is full of incredibly kind and loving individuals. However, it can be a bit nerve-wracking to go to your first party, so in honor of Fresh Meet and the Finding Your Way discussion group, here are a few things you can expect from your first party. 

Before I start though, keep in mind that these tips, as with many things in kink, are fluid. What may be true for one person may be the exact opposite for others. 

1: What will people be wearing? 

When going to a party, you will see people wearing all kinds of things. When entering the party venue, most people will be wearing casual clothes, so as to not attract outside attention and to stay street legal. Once they get inside, the rules absolutely change. You will see people in just about everything, from regular street clothes, to lingerie, to fetish outfits, to absolutely nothing but a smile. There is no pressure to wear anything specific, and you should wear whatever makes you most comfy. 

You should also check the rules of the party/venue, because they might have certain rules about what you can or can’t wear. 

2: You don’t have to play.

A common mindset when attending a kink party for the first time is the idea that it’s going to be everyone having sex with everyone, or that you must have sex, or hit people, or take part in a scene. That’s not true at all. There are many people who simply enjoy watching or hanging out with kinky friends and socializing, and that’s more than okay. Another worry about kink is how certain identities, such as asexuality for example, come into play. Asexual people also have a place in kink, and you don’t have to be interested in sex to enjoy a kink party. There are plenty of things for ace people to enjoy as well! And this holds true for the full spectrum of identities; there’s a place for everyone. Sometimes it can be very daunting to see everything that’s going on, and if you don’t feel comfortable jumping right in, you are allowed to take your time. 

3: Try to go into the party with no expectations

When going to your first party, you may have many expectations of how things are supposed to go. That is okay! That’s great! But be prepared to be flexible about it. Parties can be different from group to group, venue to venue, or even party to party. Maybe you see something at a party that you didn’t know existed but you want to try . Maybe you see something you thought you might want to try but then lose interest in. Things might not happen exactly the way you dreamed of, and that’s okay. It’s not your fault at all. There is always the next party! At my new member orientation, I received great advice from our wonderful president, Skitty: “Maybe this party you’ll have all of your kinky, sexy dreams fulfilled and do everything you’ve ever wanted to do. That’s absolutely incredible! Maybe you don’t, and that’s not how it works out. That’s okay too.” Go into it with no expectations, and be ready to take it as a fun experience. 

4: Relax and have fun! 

At the end of the day, the most important thing is enjoying yourself. You should never leave a play party feeling worse about yourself or upset that you attended. The CSPC always strives to be a fun, welcoming environment for everyone, but maybe you find that some parties just aren’t your vibe! That’s okay! The world of kink is expansive. There are different parties, discussion groups, and people to talk to. The most important thing should be that you are feeling safe and enjoying yourself.

So whatever happens, take a deep breath, relax, and have fun! You got this!!!

Ask a (Sex Positive!) REALTORⓇ

by Rebecca Bingham

Hello, dears and queers! 

This month is a market update! Year-end is on many of our minds, so I'll get right into it.

TL;DR: 

Buyers: Get your affairs (and lender) in order this month to be ready to look at a wide variety of more affordable housing options, loan products, and interest rates in Jan/Feb/March. If the house is an 8 or above on your 1–10 scale, put in an offer sooner rather than later. If you need help “getting ready to get ready,” your very first step is connecting with a loan officer. If you want to know more about that or how to interview them to find one who meets your needs and who you like and trust, message me!

Sellers: Bring the house as turnkey as possible to be ready for a spring sale, and seriously consider your agent's suggested pricing strategy. You are paying agents to help you sell your property for the most value, not just list it and let it sit unsold. Help us help you.

The full story: 

2022 was NUTS for the housing market. The market hit its peak in April, with multiple-offer situations, offers for way over the listing price, and waiving of contingencies and inspections. The Seattle market has been one of the swiftest-changing markets nationwide, and that was proven this year—month after month. As inflation flew upward, the market turned midyear in response to rising interest rates to control it. Interest rates in April were around 3.25% in contrast to November's at around 7%. The summer proved a rough lesson in patience for sellers who thought they could still get April offers. Days on the market are now at 21 days for Nov 2022, when Nov 2021 was 7 days, and April 2022 was 5 days. 

Here's who and what is selling: people who *need* to move for work, family, or other reason with houses that are priced correctly. This is where a skilled agent can help make all the difference in helping you price aggressively if you need to move soon, which can net you more money at the closing table. There are still multiple offers on homes when the price is right for the location and the house is in turnkey condition. If you're expecting to move in early 2023, your best bet is to do the improvement projects now (especially because contractors are more available than they have been all year), or it's going to come out of the closing price. Another great strategy is to have it pre-inspected, take care of the big stuff, and figure out what you are and are not willing to take care of for the little things. It can save you thousands of dollars when it's time to close.

The first quarter of 2023 is expected to be banging, per the market watchers. We expect it to become even more of a buyer's market as people who got burned in March/April/May can think more carefully about their offer, with the houses having more days on the market. There are also many more open houses to preview to get an idea of what is offered—both in a price range and in a particular area. 

Season's tidings! I'm looking forward to welcoming back the light! Contact me if you have any real estate needs, questions, or referrals, and send me any home-related questions for next month’s column via DM on Fetlife or Facebook. (I’ll keep it confidential, of course!)

Ask a (Sex-Positive) REALTORⓇ

by Rebecca Bingham

Warmest wishes to those who celebrate holidays in November, with a special thank you to Veterans on Nov 11th! Which happens to also fall on Leather Reign weekend this year. (And most years, tbh, as LR falls on the 2nd weekend in November every year).

I had a question already, and I'm so delighted!

Question: Would you mind discussing a little about WHY someone might "need" a kinky Realtor, and what is code-switching?

I'll start with code-switching. I really like this definition: "Broadly, code-switching involves adjusting one’s style of speech, appearance, behavior, and expression in ways that will optimize the comfort of others in exchange for fair treatment, quality service, and employment opportunities" from Harvard Business Review (https://hbr.org/2019/11/the-costs-of-codeswitching). So, in housing terms, I might suggest you ask your contractor to put in extra insulation for your temperature-sensitive hobbies, which will also provide GREAT soundproofing. You get your needs met, and it hasn't been outed to a workperson that you are making a kinky dungeon to tie people up in :) 

Also, by being a kink-friendly, queer Realtor, I can help with complicated issues such as a poly family where everyone is taking title although no one is married to each other without batting an eye. I work with a kink-friendly real estate attorney who can draw up the paperwork to make the agreements legal and binding, and kink-aware, queer lenders who understand that sex work is real work and will help ensure all your income is accounted for when investing in real estate, which is super helpful for pro-dommes and other sex workers. We can handle deadnames professionally, name changes, pronouns, and all sorts of queer situations with discretion.

Thank you for the questions, and I look forward to more! Please message me on Fetlife, or on FB, and of course, I won't mention your name.

Next month, I will include a market update. It's still Oct at the time of this writing. And of course, if you or someone you know is looking to buy or sell a house, please connect with me via my website or on social media.

Ask a (Sex-Positive!) REALTORⓇ

by Rebecca Bingham

Hello friends! I'm Becca, (MissBeccaBee on fet), and I'm your local polyam, fat, chronically ill, neurodiverse, trans competent, queer, femme, kinky real estate agent. Yes, those are a lot of intersections, which means I grok a lot of people and situations.

I'm currently based in Snohomish county, but I'm regularly all over the I5 corridor from Camano Island to Vancouver, WA. I've been in the Seattle kink community for 20 years, and part of the Seattle leather community for over a decade. I prioritize discretion, integrity, and dignity in my business, and I'm looking forward to serving the kink and polyam communities for your specific housing needs!

Our homes are central to our well being. Many of us work, learn, love, and play in these spaces that are so much more than simply shelter from the elements–they reflect us and support us in all the varied aspects of our lives. I work with kink-aware lenders, lawyers, and other professionals to help you navigate your own homeownership journey.

Here I'll be sharing tips, advice, and cute stories from my life as a kinky Realtor (and retired phone sex operator). I would love this to be a write-in advice column! Please message me on Fetlife, or on FB, and of course, I won't mention your name.

Let’s start with a couple of quick tips for kinky homeownership and investment!

How to make a bedroom/playroom quieter:

One of the easiest ways to soundproof a room is with soft furnishings. That's why bedrooms, living rooms, and stairs are so often carpeted. Everything you can think of that creates a shape can dampen or accentuate sounds. One of the cheapest ways is by adding lined drapes or even blankets over your windows. Having multiple layers of fabric between you and the window prevents shapes from being backlit and breaks up sound waves. You can also get acoustic tiles designed to muffle, but if you aren't worried about what it looks like and are on a budget, buy some egg crate-type foam mattresses. They do a fairly good job when put vertically on an outside wall, and you can put something decorative over it to hide it. Putting down an area rug or a few throw rugs on hardwoods in bedrooms/playrooms is also helpful. Pro tip: If you are building a new home, you can ask for thicker insulation to be put in. It will keep your house at a more even temperature year-round and help soundproof the rooms, both to the outside and from each other. The installer won't even blink at the request.

Did you know? 

You can buy a multi-family house of up to four units, and if you live in one of them for at least three years as your primary residence, you can still use a regular FHA loan. How perfect for a polycule or private short-term dungeon rentals (depending on the rules/laws in the area–which we can look into)!

So hello and welcome! Please send me your questions to answer, and if you or someone you know is looking to buy or sell a house, please connect with me via my website or on social media. I'm delighted to do the leg work for referrals outside of the state to make sure of a best fit for complicated housing needs or share resources for all your nesting or moving needs.

Cafe is OPEN--Getting Started at the CSPC

by Camille Cafe

I walked thru the door of the Center for Sex Positive Culture all by myself on the night of October 17, 2012. I had recently said goodbye to my husband as he went off to work in Antarctica for a season. We were splitting up, and it was his way of dealing with it - getting as far away from Seattle as he could. We’d put most of our belongings in storage, and I’d moved with our two cats into a dingy basement apartment in Georgetown. We’d separated for many reasons, but the driving force behind this arrangement was that I wanted to explore my sexuality. I hadn’t dated as a young woman; I was 27 when I had sex for the first time. I met my husband when I was 36. It was my first relationship, and we married about a year later. Sex was so problematic for us I found it unsatisfying. Was it, as I feared, all there was?

I went to the Center because it was a sex club–the perfect place to explore the “more” I was hoping to find. I wasn’t sure what to expect. I knew next to nothing about kink and BDSM. I hadn’t even heard of polyamory at that point. Several people recommended it as a safe place to explore, and that was exactly what I wanted. I figured I had a lot to learn. Boy, did I ever.

During a phone call I made to the Center before my first visit, I learned safety is both physical and emotional. I also learned that it’s safest to explore having sex or playing in a kink scene in a public space, especially when you’re just getting to know someone. By attending events, I learned about negotiating interactions before they happen. Giving consent (or not) is part of it, and it’s crucial to establish boundaries before engaging. Knowing and being able to articulate both desires and limits is critical.

When I started playing at the Center there was so much to choose from that I felt like a kid in a candy store. It was both heady and overwhelming. If you’re interested in a particular activity, like rope suspension, start learning about it. Go to classes. Read about it. Go to Tasting events where you can have a quick, low risk experience of it. Above all, talk to people. It’s helpful to find out what makes that particular thing so exciting and what can go wrong. Knowing what the risks are is need-to-know information. Most importantly, take your time. Jumping into things impulsively can be a bad idea that leads to getting hurt or burning out.

Another important aspect of self-care is paying attention to physical and mental health related to your sexuality. Get tested regularly for STIs  to keep yourself and the community safe. I used to get tested quarterly when I was playing regularly. Sharing results with partners is expected in most play situations. Learn about brain chemistry. Most kink/sex activities stimulate endorphins and can impact your judgment – like the “high” of new love. It can be a big consideration when playing. Pay attention to how your personal chemistry impacts you and figure out how to protect yourself from making bad decisions.

When I started at the Center, I went to a regular Tuesday afternoon event where people just talked while playing games or doing crafts. You had to wear clothes, and no sexual activity was allowed. I loved those Tuesdays. Not only did I learn a lot, but I also met the most interesting people. The sex positive community is full of fascinating and dynamic people. I drank it all in, listening as much as I could. Meeting and talking to folks who’ve been in the community a long time is as worthwhile as meeting other new folks. People who’ve been playing in the community for 20 or 30 years have invaluable insights and experiences. Most of these folks are committed to helping new people learn to play safely. There’s a lot of help, you just have to find it.

The one thing that I would stress from my experiences is to take it slow and be aware. I know it may sound overly cautious, but when you know what to expect and have safety stops in place, you can truly relax, let go, and have fun.

***For more support on your sex positive journey, join us in person at Fresh Meet or online for the finding YOUR way Discussion Group.

Sexy (Social) Science 2

by Emma Atkinson

Hello wonderful readers!  Isn’t the cooler weather a welcome shift?  

Science can be fun, especially if it’s both sexy and social. Your latest mission, should you choose to accept it, is to try being just a bit more social than usual.  

Some lovely person recently commented on how it can be difficult to meet people at CSPC parties. Many party goers attend with a date, the music can be a bit loud at times, and not everyone there has a goal of meeting someone new.

So, the next time you go to an awesome CSPC event, try to catch a few people’s eyes and smile at them. While being careful not to interrupt a scene or aftercare time, try giving a truthful compliment or two and see how that goes. It shouldn’t be all that hard - look around at a party and you’ll see amazing people wearing amazing clothes and using amazing toys. And sometimes the most ordinary-looking person in the room has amazing stories to share!

Think about what that person might want then and there. Don’t we all want to be seen and acknowledged? Don’t we want to be welcomed and feel like we’re a part of the community? Of course we do! 

Your mission is to focus on helping people at the event feel welcome. Try it, and notice if you feel more welcome yourself. Start slowly- there’s no need to push yourself too much, especially at first. Successful science experiments are habit-forming, and you may find it easier over time to get to know more people while you’re creating the kind of community you want to be in.

Please share your experiences at:  info@thecspc.org.

“She blinded me with science” - Thomas Dolby

“They blinded me with sexy (social) science” - Emma Atkinson